National Pre-Season XC 2018 GIRLS Teams - National 2018 Bill Meylan (July 26, 2018) |
Once the real season starts, I tend to ignore the pre-season. Remember ... this list is just an informational starting point ... Real 2018 race results are what count. I did add some Regional Projections
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National GIRLS Teams 2018 |
Pre-Season Projection - Girls National Team Contenders - 2018 School State Score NXN Region -------------------- ----- ----- ---------- 1 Wayzata MN 259 Heartland 2 Mountain Vista CO 260 Southwest 3 Naperville North IL 261 Midwest 4 Jesuit OR 262 Northwest 5 Great Oak CA 275 California 6 Fayetteville-Manlius NY 300 New York 7 Pine Crest FL 350 Southeast 8 Centerville OH 370 Midwest 9 Lone Peak UT 380 Southwest 10 Claremont CA 380 California 11 Yorkville IL 390 Midwest 12 Buchanan CA 400 California 13 Saratoga Springs NY 405 New York 14 Muskego WI 410 Heartland 15 Liverpool NY 415 New York 16 Boise Senior ID 415 Northwest 17 Northville MI 420 Midwest 18 Granada CA 420 California 19 North Central WA 425 Northwest 20 Edina MN 440 Heartland 21 Blacksburg VA 445 Southeast 22 Auburn AL 450 Southeast 23 Peak to Peak CO 455 Southwest 24 North Rockland NY 460 New York 25 Mountain View ID 465 Northwest 26 Downers Grove South IL 465 Midwest 27 Battle Mountain CO 470 Southwest 28 Bishop Guertin NH 470 Northeast 29 Summit OR 480 Northwest 30 North Hunterdon NJ 490 Northeast 30* Southlake Carroll TX 490 South * added above (from below) for team regional representation from each region The next group is basically in order following the list above ... Many are very close and the order could be shuffled a lot: Saint Michael-Albertville MN Heartland Farmington MN Heartland Desert Hills UT Southwest Hamilton Southeastern IN Midwest Beavercreek OH Midwest Vista Murrieta CA California Barrington IL Midwest Minneapolis Washburn MN Heartland Daniel SC Southeast Bolles FL Southeast Riverside SC Southeast Ursuline Academy OH Midwest Carmel IN Midwest Fort Wayne Carroll IN Midwest Sun Prairie WI Heartland Billings Sr MT Northwest Glenbard West IL Midwest St. James Academy KS Heartland Bozeman MT Northwest Marietta GA Southeast Keller TX South Mountain Brook AL Southeast Willmar MN Heartland Cardinal Gibbons NC Southeast Wheaton Warrenville So IL Midwest Saugus CA California Colts Neck NJ Northeast (added July 27) Houston Stratford TX South Foothill Tech CA California Lyons Township IL Midwest Zionsville Community IN Midwest Weddington NC Southeast Hilliard Davidson OH Midwest Benet Academy IL Midwest Chiles FL Southeast Skyline ID Northwest Lewisville Hebron TX South West Lafayette IN Midwest Burleson Centennial TX South Green Hope NC Southeast St. Mary's Academy OR Northwest Hellgate MT Northwest |
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Comments on the TOP 20 Teams: |
#1 - Wayzata MN
... Wayzata finished 7th at NXN Nationals last year with a good
performance ... More importantly, all five NXN scorers return (3
juniors and 2 sophomores this coming season) ... Returning speed
ratings are 140, 138, 127, 124 and 112 ... Wayzata won NXN
Nationals in 2013 and were the NXR Heartland winners last year. #2 - Mountain Vista CO ... Mountain Vista finished 6th at NXN Nationals last year (only 3 points separated Mountain Vista and Wayzata) ... Mountain Vista was 2nd at the NXR Southwest Regional last year ... they return their top 5 runners from NXN Nationals (top runner Jenna Fitzsimmons is profiled #38 at Top Individual Runner Profiles)... Returning speed ratings are 142,132, 131, 123 and 110. #3 - Naperville North IL ... Naperville North finished an outstanding 2nd at NXN Nationals last year (only 5 points behind Fayetteville-Manlius) ... they were 10th in 2016, 14th in 2015 and 4th in 2014 ... Multiple appearances at NXN Nationals is a big plus ... Naperville North won NXR Midwest last year ... But they graduate 2 of their top 3 runners from NXN National including top runner Sarah Schmitt (8th at both NXN and Foot Locker Nationals) ... However, Naperville North picks up a very good transfer runner (Campbell Petersen, from Dunlap IL, who had speed ratings in the 128-130 range) ... Returning for the coming season speed ratings are about 140s (Alex Morris, see Top Individual Runner Profiles #30), 129, 122, 122 and 116. #4 - Jesuit OR ... Jesuit finished 15th at NXN Nationals last year (not their best seasonal performance) ... they finished 2nd at NXR Northwest ... Jesuit returns 5 of their top 6 runners ... Returning speed ratings are 137, 135, 132, 123 and 107. #5 - Great Oak CA ... Great Oak finished 8th at NXN last year, 3rd in 2016, 3rd in 2015 and 2nd in 2014 ... Great Oak returns 5 of their top 6 finishers from NXN including their top 3 finishers (two are profiled at Top Individual Runner Profiles, #28 & #29) ... Great Oak has excellent depth and gets credit for that ... Returning speed ratings are about 144, 141, 123, 118 and 109. #6 - Fayetteville-Manlius NY ... FM is the defending NXN champion ... FM has been the NXN champion in 11 of the last 12 years ... As noted in previous years, picking FM as the favorite to win NXN does not require much imagination, But this year MAY be different ... in most previous years, there were some indications that FM might be reloading, but in all honesty, at this time, I don't see it and have not been told about it happening ... It could be happening ... will not surprise if it happens ... So I'm allowing some credit for that possibility because it has happened so often in the past ..... BUT based on what I see as I write this, Fayetteville-Manlius should not be placed in the top 5 nationally. Fayetteville-Manlius returns only 2 of their top 5 girls from last year's winning team NXN team ... Fortunately for FM, their top two girls are returning (Claire Walters, 5th at NXN, and Phoebe White, 15th at NXN, and that's a huge start ... full profiles at Top NY Girls Profiles) ... their #3 is expected to be good ... their future strength will depend on the performances at the #4 and #5 positions (currently a mystery to be guessed by me and others). Fayetteville-Manlius may be pushed just to be the top team in New York ... Saratoga and Liverpool can offer stiff competition in NY ... Should FM finish 3rd at the NXR Regional, they could easily receive an At-Large selection based on their history of performance and success at NXN Nationals and to get two of the top individual runners nationally into the race ..... More info about FM is available from my NY Pre-season Team Projections, ... Returning speed ratings are about 147, 144 120s, and 100-110 (guessing). #7 - Pine Crest FL ... Pine Crest did not qualify for NXN Nationals last year ... they finished 4th at the NXR Southeast Regional after winning the Florida State 2A Championship ... Pine Crest returns their entire team from NXR ... Returning speed ratings are 135, 127, 127, 119 and 104. #8 - Centerville OH ... Centerville did not qualify for NXN Nationals last year ... they finished 4th at NXR Midwest ... they won the Ohio State D1 Meet ... Centerville returns their entire team from NXR ... Returning speed ratings are 130, 127, 122, 114 and 113. #9 - Lone Peak UT ... Lone Peak did not qualify for NXN Nationals last year ... they finished 4th at NXR Southwest ... Lone Peak returns their entire team from NXR ... Returning speed ratings are 130, 128, 117, 117 and 110. #10 - Claremont CA ... Claremont finished 9th at NXN Nationals last year ... they return 5 of their top 7 from NXN including the top 4 finishers ... Returning speed ratings are 132, 124, 121, 119 and 105. #11 - Yorkville IL ... Yorkville finished 18th at NXN Nationals last year ... they finished 2nd at NXR Midwest ... Yorkville returns 6 of 7 runners from NXN (but lose the #2 runner from NXN) ... Returning speed ratings are 131, 130, 116, 116 and 107. #12 - Buchanan CA ... Buchanan finished 12th at NXN Nationals last year ... Buchanan finished 3rd in the California State Meet merge ... they return their top 3 runners from NXN (but the other 4 graduated) ... Two of their returning runners are top national runners (profiled at Top Individual Runner Profiles, #26 & #27) and #3 is good ... I am guessing their #4 and #5 runners will be decent, and that gets them ranked ... Returning speed ratings are 147, 146, 123, and 100-105 (guesses). #13 - Saratoga Springs NY ... Saratoga is a perennial competitor at NXN ... they have competed at NXN Nationals in 12 of the 14 years that NXN has operated ... Last year Saratoga finished 14th at NXN ... Top runner Kelsey Chmiel finished 2nd at NXN Nationals (her individual profile is available from the Top Individual Runner Profiles, #3) ... more info is available from my NY Pre-season Team Projections ... Returning speed ratings are 158, 117, 115, 114 and variable (100-110). #14 - Muskego WI ... Muskego did not qualify for NXN Nationals last year (they did not race at the NXR Regional) ... Muskego finished 2nd to Sun Prairie at the Wisconsin State Meet (Sun Prairie is listed in the extra group below the Top 30 above ... Sun Prairie lost their top runner to graduation) ... Muskego returns their entire team from States and five were freshmen last year ... Returning speed ratings from States are 140, 134, 116, 110, 105, 102 and 102. #15 - Liverpool NY ... Liverpool finished 13th at NXN Nationals last year ... Liverpool returns 6 of 7 runners from NXN, including their top 3 that form a solid core of a nationally ranked team ... more info on Liverpool is available from my NY Pre-season Team Projections ... Profiles for their top two runners are available at Top NY Girls Profiles ... Returning speed ratings are 141, 132+, 112+, 105+ and 100+. #16 - Boise Senior ID ... Boise Senior did not qualify for NXN Nationals last year (they did not race as a complete team at NXR Northwest) ... they return their top runners from States that has a very strong top core of three runners (which gets them ranked here assuming an improvement at the #5 position) ... Returning speed ratings from States are 139, 130, 129, 107 and 87. #17 - Northville MI ... Northville did not qualify for NXN Nationals last year (they did not race at NXR Midwest, perhaps due to potential restrictions-sanctions imposed by the Michigan High School Athletic Assoc) ... Northville finished a very close 2nd at the Michigan State Meet and return 6 of 7 runners (including the top two) ... Returning speed ratings from States are 134, 131, 112, 111 and 107. #18 - Granada CA ... Granada did not qualify for NXN Nationals last year ... they finished 6th in the overall merge at the California State Meet ... Granada returns their entire team from States ... Returning speed ratings from States are 131, 123, 121, 114 and 106 (meaning they could be ranked higher based on speed ratings alone). #19 - North Central WA ... North Central WA did not qualify for NXN Nationals last year ... they finished 8th at NXN Northwest and won the Washington State 3A title ... the top 4 runners from States return ... Returning speed ratings from States are 134, 124, 124, 124 and 64 ... I'm assuming some improvement at the #5 position (a major improvement would boost their ranking). #20 - Edina MN ... Edina finished 11th at NXN Nationals last year and 12th in 2016 ... Edina was 2nd to Wayzata the NXR Heartland Regional ... their top two runners graduated, but Edina has been able to reload in recent years with a deep squad ... Returning speed ratings are 122, 119, 116, 115 and 114.
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Last Year's (2017) Girl's Pre-Season Projections ... and corresponding results with NXN Nationals |
Pre-Season 2017 NXN Finish Order at Last Year's School State Score Region NXN 2017 Pre-Season Projection -------------------- ----- ----- ------ ----------------------------- ----------------------- 1 Fayetteville-Manlius NY 110 New York 1 Fayetteville-Manlius NY - #1 pre-season 2 Keller TX 285 South 2 Naperville North IL - #12 pre-season 3 Broomfield CO 295 Southwest 3 Battle Mountain CO - #30+ group pre-season 4 Buchanan CA 320 California 4 Keller TX - #2 pre-season 5 Mountain Vista CO 340 Southwest 5 Bozeman MT - #19 pre-season 6 Davis Senior CA 335 California 6 Mountain Vista CO - #5 pre-season 7 Sunset OR 350 Northwest 7 Wayzata MN - #30+ group pre-season 8 Edina MN 370 Heartland 8 Great Oak CA - #10 pre-season 9 Jesuit OR 370 Northwest 9 Claremont CA - #30+ group pre-season 10 Great Oak CA 390 California 10 Broomfield CO - #3 pre-season 11 Mountain View-ID ID 395 Northwest 11 Edina MN - #8 pre-season 12 Naperville North IL 405 Midwest 12 Buchanan CA - #4 pre-season 13 Saratoga NY 405 New York 13 Liverpool NY - unranked (#9 New York) 14 Fort Wayne Carroll IN 420 Midwest 14 Saratoga Springs NY - #13 pre-season 15 Cardinal Gibbons NC 420 Southeast 15 Jesuit OR - #9 pre-season 16 Centerville OH 425 Midwest 16 Cardinal Gibbons NC - #15 pre-season 17 Lyons Township IL 425 Midwest 17 Blacksburg VA - #29 pre-season 18 North Rockland NY 430 New York 18 Yorkville IL - #30+ group pre-season 19 Bozeman MT 440 Northwest 19 duPont Manual KY - unranked 20 Palos Verdes CA 445 California 20 Southlake Carroll TX - #26 pre-season 21 Johnston IA 445 Heartland 21 North Hunterdon NJ - #30 pre-season 22 Pine Crest FL 445 Southeast 22 Kingsway NJ - unranked 23 Canyon/Anaheim CA 445 California 24 Billings Sr MT 450 Northwest 25 Troy OH 450 Midwest 26 Southlake Carroll TX 450 South 27 Minnetonka MN 455 Heartland 28 Camas WA 460 Northwest 29 Blacksburg VA 460 Southeast 30 Carmel IN 460 Midwest 30* North Hunterdon NJ 490+ Northeast 30* Milton MA 490+ Northeast 30* Colts Neck NJ 490+ Northeast |
Girls Pre-Season Regional Projections 2018 |
Some viewers have asked me to do a Pre-season Regional "Guess" ... Below are some numbers from my worksheets by Region showing teams I considered. Remember ... My main purpose is to identify teams for Nationals and not to do an in-depth evaluation for each region (New York is the only exception) ... That's why the list below is limited in some respects ... I looked at cross country performances from 2017 (from my databases only) and selected potential National teams ... I needed to find enough data on enough returning runners to make a guess without additional time-consuming searching (otherwise, teams got excluded). I do not believe it is worth spending lots of time on the pre-season because we will find out soon enough who is good (and unexpectedly good) when the real season starts ... The pre-season lists help me identify teams that might need to be followed.
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California Great Oak CA 75 California Claremont CA 95 California Granada CA 105 California Buchanan CA 120 California Vista Murrieta CA 140 California Saugus CA 155 California Foothill Tech CA 160 California King M.L.-SS CA 180 California Serrano CA 180 California Mira Costa CA 185 California Oakland Tech CA 185 California Heartland Wayzata MN 70 Heartland Muskego WI 115 Heartland Edina MN 120 Heartland Saint Michael-Albertvil MN 130 Heartland Farmington MN 140 Heartland Willmar MN 150 Heartland St. James Academy KS 155 Heartland Sun Prairie WI 155 Heartland Minneapolis Washburn MN 160 Heartland Johnston IA 185 Heartland Forest Lake Area MN 200 Heartland Midwest Naperville North IL 120 Midwest Centerville OH 160 Midwest Yorkville IL 180 Midwest Northville MI 215 Midwest Downers Grove South IL 220 Midwest Barrington IL 260 Midwest Hamilton Southeastern IN 260 Midwest Beavercreek OH 265 Midwest Fort Wayne Carroll IN 275 Midwest Ursuline Academy OH 275 Midwest Carmel IN 280 Midwest Glenbard West IL 285 Midwest Wheaton Warrenville So IL 290 Midwest Lyons Township IL 295 Midwest Zionsville Community IN 295 Midwest Benet Academy IL 300 Midwest Hilliard Davidson OH 305 Midwest West Lafayette IN 315 Midwest Minooka IL 325 Midwest Batavia IL 330 Midwest New York (see NY Girls Projection Page) Fayetteville-Manlius NY 175 New York Saratoga NY 185 New York Liverpool NY 190 New York John Jay Cross River NY 295 New York Niskayuna NY 320 New York Monroe-Woodbury NY 320 New York North Rockland NY 325 New York Warwick Valley NY 360 New York Shenendehowa NY 365 New York Pearl River NY 420 New York Notre Dame NY 430 New York Northeast Bishop Guertin NH 90 Northeast North Hunterdon NJ 90 Northeast Colts Neck NJ 100 Northeast (added July 27) Concord Carlisle MA 110 Northeast Oakland Catholic PA 120 Northeast Wellesley MA 125 Northeast Natick MA 135 Northeast Fox Chapel Area PA 140 Northeast Pinkerton Academy NH 145 Northeast Champlain Valley VT 160 Northeast Kingsway NJ 175 Northeast Northwest Jesuit OR 75 Northwest North Central WA 125 Northwest Boise Senior ID 125 Northwest Mountain View ID 130 Northwest Summit OR 140 Northwest Billings Sr MT 155 Northwest Bozeman MT 160 Northwest Skyline ID 180 Northwest Hellgate MT 180 Northwest St. Mary's Academy OR 185 Northwest Lewis And Clark WA 190 Northwest Laramie WY 195 Northwest South Southlake Carroll TX 90 South Houston Stratford TX 90 South Keller TX 90 South Burleson Centennial TX 100 South Lewisville Hebron TX 105 South Flower Mound TX 110 South Coppell TX 115 South Norman OK 120 South Southeast Pine Crest FL 115 Southeast Blacksburg VA 145 Southeast Auburn AL 150 Southeast Bolles FL 190 Southeast Riverside SC 200 Southeast Marietta GA 205 Southeast Daniel SC 215 Southeast Mountain Brook AL 215 Southeast Weddington NC 220 Southeast Cardinal Gibbons NC 220 Southeast Chiles FL 245 Southeast Green Hope NC 250 Southeast McIntosh GA 260 Southeast Padua Academy DE 265 Southeast Montverde Academy FL 265 Southeast Cuthbertson NC 280 Southeast Tatnall DE 295 Southeast Southwest Mountain Vista CO 70 Southwest Lone Peak UT 105 Southwest Battle Mountain CO 125 Southwest Peak to Peak CO 130 Southwest Desert Hills UT 135 Southwest Corner Canyon UT 170 Southwest Davis (UT) UT 180 Southwest Rock Canyon CO 180 Southwest American Fork UT 185 Southwest Palmer Ridge CO 195 Southwest Pine View UT 200 Southwest Rocky Mountain CO 205 Southwest |